Wouldn't it be a cleaner world if everyone drove and electric car? Wouldn't that be the alternative energy future we need to stop pollution, save the world from global warming and usher in a new utopian age of transportation? Well, actually it wouldn't and much of what you hear about this is mass media manipulation in an attempt to sell this alternative energy new religion. The reality is that this concept and strategy most likely won't work, and the costs would be outrageous even if it were made possible. But, let's have this dialogue anyway, shall we?
Recently, an acquaintance said to me; "In sunny south of USA, Photovoltaic producing electric power for electric cars is at an US$ 1 per gallon price equivalent. Who is silly? Who pays 1/4 of the price for gasoline for clean solar energy or who pays the high price for dirty gasoline?"
Sure, and I can charge my golf cart for A $1.85 and it goes 25 mph for 26 miles per charge, I get that. But if an electric car costs on average $15,000 more at minimum, then where is the ROI if you have to replace the batteries every 5-7 years at a cost of $5500? And where are you planning on putting all those old batteries? Where are you going to get the lithium to produce a million cars a year, and at the peak the US buys 15-17 million cars a year, that's what they are selling in China. So, even that would be a drop in the bucket.
Where are you putting all the solar panels for the solar farms to power up all the electric cars? They need to be by transmission lines, add that to the cost of your kilowatt hour price point, it's going up in that case. If everyone used electric cars we'd need 5-times the capacity as we have now, how do you propose to do that - besides many of the solar farms have bankrupted, basically more Solyndras.
Sorry to say, but the figures don't work, and realize I am an entrepreneur, if they did, I'd be all over it, but they don't not without heavy subsidies, and where is that coming from after Obama blew through $90 Billion of taxpayer's money and is deficit spending to the tune of $1 trillion + per year? You cannot unbalance and hijack the energy sector just because you've fallen in love with the clean energy, new age, and AGW religion.
My acquaintance states; "Batteries can be recycled, we will do this for the next some billion years. Photovoltaic can be recycled, we will do this for the next some billion years"
Maybe the cost of the electric car will come down with economies of scale, but don't ask the taxpayer to fund that crap. If it's such a great idea, let VW, BMW, GM, Fiat, Volvo, Mercedes, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Ford go for it. We don't have the same ELF programs in the US as you folks do in Europe, and yes batteries can be recycled if done properly.
Still, about the time everyone figures all that out, we will have carbon nanotube construction and cars will weigh less and use less fuel anyway. Lastly, we already have the energy sector working, why screw with it? When the alternative energy sector brings forth real technology which works, with proper ROI, then they can bring it to market, but please stop insisting more taxpayer's money to do it. Think on this.
Recently, an acquaintance said to me; "In sunny south of USA, Photovoltaic producing electric power for electric cars is at an US$ 1 per gallon price equivalent. Who is silly? Who pays 1/4 of the price for gasoline for clean solar energy or who pays the high price for dirty gasoline?"
Sure, and I can charge my golf cart for A $1.85 and it goes 25 mph for 26 miles per charge, I get that. But if an electric car costs on average $15,000 more at minimum, then where is the ROI if you have to replace the batteries every 5-7 years at a cost of $5500? And where are you planning on putting all those old batteries? Where are you going to get the lithium to produce a million cars a year, and at the peak the US buys 15-17 million cars a year, that's what they are selling in China. So, even that would be a drop in the bucket.
Where are you putting all the solar panels for the solar farms to power up all the electric cars? They need to be by transmission lines, add that to the cost of your kilowatt hour price point, it's going up in that case. If everyone used electric cars we'd need 5-times the capacity as we have now, how do you propose to do that - besides many of the solar farms have bankrupted, basically more Solyndras.
Sorry to say, but the figures don't work, and realize I am an entrepreneur, if they did, I'd be all over it, but they don't not without heavy subsidies, and where is that coming from after Obama blew through $90 Billion of taxpayer's money and is deficit spending to the tune of $1 trillion + per year? You cannot unbalance and hijack the energy sector just because you've fallen in love with the clean energy, new age, and AGW religion.
My acquaintance states; "Batteries can be recycled, we will do this for the next some billion years. Photovoltaic can be recycled, we will do this for the next some billion years"
Maybe the cost of the electric car will come down with economies of scale, but don't ask the taxpayer to fund that crap. If it's such a great idea, let VW, BMW, GM, Fiat, Volvo, Mercedes, Chrysler, Toyota, Honda and Ford go for it. We don't have the same ELF programs in the US as you folks do in Europe, and yes batteries can be recycled if done properly.
Still, about the time everyone figures all that out, we will have carbon nanotube construction and cars will weigh less and use less fuel anyway. Lastly, we already have the energy sector working, why screw with it? When the alternative energy sector brings forth real technology which works, with proper ROI, then they can bring it to market, but please stop insisting more taxpayer's money to do it. Think on this.
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